Jamie MacGuire encounters presidential candidate Mike Pence and talks to Tim Busch about lay Catholic leadership today 

This week's Napa Institute conference on the West Coast is the annual pilgrimage gathering of business and spiritual leaders of the US Catholic church, along with a small caravan of media, education leaders, entrepreneurs, attorneys, religious and bible groups, priests, philanthropists, nonprofit executives and Catholic influentials.

What began in 2011 as a mini Sun Valley-style conference for the good and great of conservative leaning Catholics has grown from 130 attendees to over 800 delegates (tickets at $2800) this week, including Republican presidential candidate Mike Pence, lagging some distance behind his former boss Donald Trump in the 2024 White House race.